Diablo 3 PvP Dummy Ranking


9 months ago


We have added PvP Dummy Score to DiabloProgress.

- PvP Dummy Rankings

PvP Dummy score answers to question:
Two heroes meet each other in arena, if they stand still and only DPS each other, without buffs, who would win?

Formula for PvP Dummy Score:
dps * ehp * K_DUMMY

All the values are unbuffed.

Explanation:
Hero1 kills Hero2 in ehp2/dps1 seconds.
Hero2 kills Hero1 in ehp1/dps2 seconds.
If ehp2/dps1 < ehp1/dps2, then ehp2*dps2 < ehp1*dps1.

P.S.
Unfortunately this score doesn't include life replenishment, as it cannot be expressed with single value.
It depends on dps of the opponent. If dps of the opponent is lower, then life replenishment works better as the fight lasts longer.

Comments

  1. sflszyt
    Rating: -1 [-][+]
    9 months ago
    I agree with the formula. Hmmmm I am sure Blizzard will remove the 30% damage reduction on melee classes in PVP if they see this.
  2. Kernel
    kernel#2961
    9 months ago
    I forgot to mention that we don't include 30% melee buff in the score (the same thing is for Heroscore).
    So melee in-game will be even stronger.

    At the same time ranged classes can do ranged attacks, so that's fine.
  3. KickUrAss
    Hairstyle#2380
    Rating: [-][+]
    9 months ago
    Have you ever considered the important of Discipline Regeneration and Maximum Discipline for DH?
  4. iamthewizard2
    Saberfenix#1119
    Rating: [-][+]
    6 months ago
    whinge whinge that's all i hear from you guys about the 30% damage reduction that we melee classes have. have u not considered the fact that range classes have ranged abilities that do waaaay more dps before the melee class even comes into contact with you at closerange? no??? then stop posting stupid theories as what blizzard will and wont do.
  5. KickUrAss
    Hairstyle#2380
    Rating: [-][+]
    9 months ago
    Two heroes meet each other in arena, if they stand still and only DPS each other, without buffs, who would win? lol lol lol lol
  6. KickUrAss
    Hairstyle#2380
    Rating: +1 [-][+]
    9 months ago
    In heroscore you almost ignore Discipline Regeneration and Maximum Discipline.
    For example "Zira" (mogz#1946) Heroscore: 12485 and "Athene" (athene#1780)
    They are both wearing Zunimassa's Journey now but when they plays he wears Natalya's Soul
    And athene also use Natalya's Shadow with Discipline when he plays why is that?
    Because Discipline Regeneration and Maximum Discipline are so important!!
    So why whould they put on Zunimassa's Journey when they go offline?
    Cause Zunimassa's Journey have about 1000 more heropoint then Natalya's Soul!!
    Cause you you almost ignore Discipline Regeneration and Maximum Discipline in your calculation of heroscore!!
  7. Badeanda
    Rating: [-][+]
    9 months ago
    If he's going too be counting disc regen then i should get bonus heroscore from my healglobe pickup range as i use it with vengence for disc regen.
  8. KickUrAss
    Hairstyle#2380
    Rating: +1 [-][+]
    9 months ago
    The Zunimassa's Journey is just a show off item for Dh and they are doing funny thing like putting on Zunimassa's Journey when they go offline because you ignore Discipline Regeneration and Maximum Discipline.
  9. Bresha
    Rating: +1 [-][+]
    9 months ago
    Please, post more about disc regen!
  10. Elana
    Elana#1343
    Rating: [-][+]
    9 months ago
    Great Job!
    As mentioned yesterday, could you also add a farming ranking which values MF against EHP and DPS?
    I would suggest to have
    - MF compared to DPS = 1:30
    - MF compared to EHP = 1:300
    Than having a scaling for all 3 values because it is not really linear

    Formular could be like this
    (EHP/300*(EHP/10000000+1)) * (DPS/30 * (DPS/500000+1)) * (MF * (MF/500 + 1)) / 100000

    I played around a little bit to come up with the formular
    here is how it would look like:
    http://i50.tinypic.com/2mwgi2o.jpg
  11. Kernel
    kernel#2961
    9 months ago
    Thanks, I'll try to implement something like this.
  12. oCannonballo
    Cannonball#2832
    Rating: [-][+]
    6 months ago
    Nice !! ^^
    As posted below :
    An MF (magic find)/ GF (gold find) score might be great; for GF level the pick up radius and and speed movement could be interesting in the calculation for the GF score.
    And GF/MF scores told with and without the parangon bonus could be better ;-).
  13. Shpetznaz45
    Rating: +2 [-][+]
    9 months ago
    I think you should class colour the Hero Name to reduce redundancy.
  14. TheTimeCode
    Ultimatum#1351
    Rating: [-][+]
    9 months ago
    You gotta include life replenishment somehow, because Moldran (1st ATM) with 57k dps unbuffed cannot kill my monk with 120k effective life regen per second. It just doesn't seem fair to tanks still.
  15. Linkz
    Linkz Atheos
    Rating: [-][+]
    8 months ago
    You should include life on hit and life leech, though that way, people with very high life on hit will be on the top of the list.
  16. amaclansm
    ShamanKing#2535
    Rating: [-][+]
    7 months ago
    PvP-Dummy Ranking is so importan as like DPS and EHP Ranking. For this reason PvP-Dummy Ranking should come in menu "Characters", so all player can check better and faster their PvP-Dummy Ranking.
  17. dafab
    DaFab#2678
    Rating: [-][+]
    6 months ago
    to make this value more realistic, you should put more weight on "reduce controll impairing effects", "melee damage reduced" and "missile damage reduced".

    I have the impression those values are not properly implemented for ehp right now.
    "reduce controll imparing effects" can only be correctly calculated, if you can estimate how many hits will not be dealt to you, because of this value.
  18. oCannonballo
    Cannonball#2832
    Rating: [-][+]
    6 months ago
    Hello,
    congratulations for your amazing job for the calculations !! I can't imagine how much it must be complicated !!
    An MF (magic find)/ GF (gold find) score might be great for GF level the pick up and and speed movement could be interesting in the calculation for the GF score, scored told with and without the parangon bonus ;-).
  19. Blutbogen
    Rating: [-][+]
    5 months ago
    Nice but i will fight agains´t real People!
    oh how long mußt wait for that ???
    Mfg

    BlooD
  20. Patrick819
    Rating: +1 [-][+]
    3 months ago
    Confirmed by blue post that players are intended to be elites. "Bonus vs Elites" and "Reduced Damage from Elites" should be added into the formula.

    Source: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7593741962#7





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